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Is a 98.8% result from Janoshik comparable to 96.4% from Medutest?

Asked 16 May 2026Modified 2 days agoViewed 3.5k times
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What I have: 98.8% · Janoshik · 96.4% · Medutest.

I want to know what the trade-off actually is rather than which option is fashionable.

I would rather have a defensible reason than a marginal improvement.

Which axes does this decision turn on?

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askedleah_ferrers12k1616 May 2026
3Voting to keep this open — it is more specific than it first looks. – oona_kekkonen 7 months ago
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98.8 and 96.4 are 2.4 percentage points apart, which sounds small until you restate it as impurity. Janoshik is leaving 1.2 per cent of the detected area unassigned and Medutest 3.6 per cent — a factor of 3 between them. The impurity fraction is the quantity that moves when a method changes, and it is the one worth arguing about; the headline is just its complement. Comparable means same column chemistry, same gradient slope, same detection wavelength, same integration convention. Until you have those four from both laboratories, 98.8 and 96.4 are two measurements of slightly different quantities that happen to share a unit.

Read the chromatogram before you read the number, because the number without the trace is not a measurement, it is a claim.

Mobile phase additive choice affects ionisation and peak shape — TFA gives sharp peaks but suppresses mass spectrometry signal, formic acid gives worse peaks but preserves signal.

Mass shifts and what they usually mean

Δ mass (Da)Most likely causeDistinguishing feature
+1Deamidation (Asn or Gln)New peak, slightly earlier retention
−17Loss of ammoniaOften with deamidation
−18Dehydration / succinimidepH-dependent, reversible
+16Oxidation (Met, Trp)Earlier retention, light-related
−128Missing Gln or LysDeletion sequence from synthesis
0Isomer: racemisation or scramblingSame mass, shifted retention

The relevant detail is that buffer versus acid in the mobile phase changes the ionisation state of basic and acidic residues, shifting retention and selectivity — same vial, potentially different separation.

I would be careful about over-reading a single measurement — treat it as a data point, not as ground truth.

If you are ranking vendors, specify a method and have all samples tested at the same place.

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Start from what the detector sees, because that tells you what the number means.

Gradient slope controls resolution, and gentler slopes resolve co-eluting impurities into separate peaks — so the better method reports the worse purity number.

Specifically, temperature affects the dynamics of molecular conformation, and if a peptide has proline residues that interconvert on the chromatographic timescale, the peak will split or shoulder at low temperature and collapse at high temperature.

Published side-by-side method comparisons show that a two-point difference in purity on the same vial is easily explained by method choice alone.

The limitation is that single-digit micro-impurities become invisible at typical reporting thresholds, so "no impurities detected" means "none above one in two thousand."

Compare purity within a single laboratory on the same method, never across laboratories.

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answereds_kalniete57k385 Jun 2026
3Thank you — this is the answer I was looking for. – samir_bennani 2 months ago
2Any reason to prefer ion chromatography over fluorine NMR for the counter-ion here? – Dr_Hanne_Solberg 10 months ago
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The honest answer is that the achievable range of plausible purity figures for a given vial is wider than most people expect.

Tailing factor measures peak shape, and a badly tailing peak spreads into the region where small impurities live, forcing tangent-skim integration that assigns tail area to the main peak.

Retention time is sequence-specific and method-specific, so comparing your result to a supplier value using a different method is meaningless without method documentation.

The Arrhenius relationship for peptide degradation is the basis of accelerated stability testing and also governs how quickly methods drift with temperature.

Worth noting that method standardisation is poor in the research-grade space compared to pharmaceutical work, so identical-looking methods can produce different results.

The practical summary: ask for the chromatogram and the method, and ignore the headline number until you have both.

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answereds_kalniete57k388 Jun 2026
5Two of us submitted the same lot to different laboratories and got results a tenth apart. – rota_site 5 months ago
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More usefully, identity and purity are orthogonal, and a high purity says almost nothing about whether the peak is actually what you think it is.

Sample solvent strength affects peak shape — if you inject in strong solvent on a gradient starting in weak solvent, the solvent peak can distort your main peak or create a false shoulder.

Inter-laboratory studies on identical peptide material routinely find half-a-per-cent to a full-per-cent spreads in reported purity on the same sample.

If you only pay for one test, pay for quantified content. Purity is the number everyone quotes and content is the number that changes what you do.

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answeredvoid_volume9.5k1527 Jul 2026
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Understanding purity requires separating the chemistry from the method from the reporting convention, and the three are not independent.

Integration of the shoulder — whether you use perpendicular drop or tangent skim — determines what area gets assigned to the main peak versus the impurity table.

Proline conformer interconversion kinetics are well-characterised and the half-life is of the same order as the chromatographic peak width at room temperature.

In practice: ask for the chromatogram, check the method section, check the lot number against the vial, and set your accept threshold before you see the result rather than after.

edited 1 Jul 2026 by s_kalniete — tightened the wording; no substantive change

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answereds_kalniete57k382 Jun 2026

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