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How do I compute the +2 charge state m/z for a peptide of 4207.2 Da?

Asked 23 Sept 2024Modified 18 months agoViewed 31k times
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What I have: +2 · 4207.2 Da.

This should be a straightforward calculation and I keep getting two different answers.

The numbers are arbitrary; the method is what I am after.

Can someone show the working rather than just the answer?

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askedliam_bracken12k1623 Sept 2024

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Put another way, a mass shift of exactly zero with a shifted retention time points to an isomer — a scrambled disulfide or a racemised residue — which mass spectrometry alone cannot identify.

A mass shift of minus one hundred and twenty-eight usually means a missing Gln or Lys residue from a synthesis deletion sequence.

Mass shifts and what they usually mean

Δ mass (Da)Most likely causeDistinguishing feature
+1Deamidation (Asn or Gln)New peak, slightly earlier retention
−17Loss of ammoniaOften with deamidation
−18Dehydration / succinimidepH-dependent, reversible
+16Oxidation (Met, Trp)Earlier retention, light-related
−128Missing Gln or LysDeletion sequence from synthesis
0Isomer: racemisation or scramblingSame mass, shifted retention

To be exact about it, the baseline noise on a mass spectrum sets the limit of detection, and a weak signal close to the noise is not reliable evidence for the presence of a species.

False positives from contamination are common in mass spectrometry work, and running a blank between every sample and a solvent background are standard practice.

The caveat is that a correct mass does not mean the peak is correct — isomers and co-eluting species can have the same m/z.

The practical summary: use mass spectrometry for identity, not for purity.

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answeredtandem_gradient85k24818 Jan 2025
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On the detail: the single most important fact about mass spectrometry for peptides is that it measures only the molecular weight and tells you almost nothing about whether the peak is actually your target.

Deconvolution of a mass spectrum with multiple charge states produces a reconstructed neutral mass, and errors in the deconvolution produce errors in the inferred mass.

The m/z accuracy achievable depends on the mass analyser type — quadrupole gives low accuracy, time-of-flight gives moderate accuracy, and Orbitrap gives high accuracy.

Always run a blank between samples and check for carry-over.

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answeredn_takahashi36k3823 Oct 2024
8Do you have a reference for the last claim? Not disputing it, just want to read it. – e_dziedzic 8 months ago
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Scrambled disulfides have the same mass as correctly formed ones, so mass spectrometry alone cannot detect a scrambling failure.

The charge state distribution depends on the solution pH, the structure of the peptide and the source conditions, so the same peptide can look different under different conditions.

More usefully, for a large peptide with multiple peaks in the mass spectrum, comparing the observed isotope pattern to the calculated pattern is a quick check that the formula matches.

Worth noting that source contamination is common and silent, so a result that looks too good to be true often is.

A correct mass is necessary for identity but not sufficient — you also need the chromatography to confirm it.

edited 20 Oct 2024 by threadlock7 — added the method parameters

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answeredthreadlock714k2612 Oct 2024
8This matches what I was told by a laboratory, for whatever that is worth. – orla_ferriter 13 days ago
7Minor: the trial name is hyphenated in the original publication. – ines_brandt 9 months ago
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Identity confirmation from mass spectrometry means matching the observed m/z to the calculated m/z for your peptide at its known charge states.

High-resolution mass spectrometry can distinguish a Lys-containing peptide from an Arg-containing peptide of similar mass because of the isotope difference.

Peptide mapping — enzymatic digestion followed by tandem mass spectrometry — can confirm the primary sequence and is the method of choice when identity is ambiguous.

The practical summary: use mass spectrometry for identity, not for purity.

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answeredDr_Bram_Verhoeven85k24816 Dec 2024
3Worth adding that the method section is where the answer usually is. – petra_hovland 6 months ago
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Tandem mass spectrometry fragments the ions and measures the fragment masses, which provides sequence information and is the best tool for confirming identity.

A mass shift of plus sixteen usually means oxidation at methionine or tryptophan, which is common in peptides and often comes from sample handling rather than synthesis failure.

Always run a blank between samples and check for carry-over.

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answeredb_delacroix48k381 Oct 2024

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