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How do I model twelve months of mazdutide across supply routes?

Asked 6 Feb 2025Modified 15 months agoViewed 33k times
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The lane and the lead time matter as much as the material for what I am doing.

This should be a straightforward calculation and I keep getting two different answers.

The numbers are arbitrary; the method is what I am after.

Can someone walk through the arithmetic step by step?

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askedekaterina_volk21k286 Feb 2025

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Twelve months is 52 weekly administrations across 365 days, and on a four-week ladder from the bottom of the range about 5 steps — so roughly 20 of the 52 doses are escalation doses and 32 are at maintenance. Model it in that order and the routes become comparable: doses per year first, milligrams per dose second, cost per milligram third. Anything quoted per vial hides the second of those, which is the one that changes most between the first 20 doses and the last 32. Then add what each route charges that the other does not. A prescription route carries consultation and dispensing fees, spread across the 52 doses rather than paid once. A research route carries testing, shipping, and the material lost between them. Testing is the line most sheets omit. At one lot a quarter, a test-every-lot policy is 4 assays a year; at one lot a month it is 12. That difference is usually larger than any difference in price per milligram, and it is a policy you choose rather than a cost you are quoted. Put doses per year in the top row and derive everything under it, and the twelve-month totals compare on arithmetic instead of on presentation.

Answer first: compare cost per milligram of measured peptide, not per milligram of label claim, because content varies enough to reverse a comparison.

Change one number and it reverses: if B assays at 82 per cent, that is 8.2 mg for £52, or £6.34/mg, and the cheaper vial is now the more expensive peptide.

Cost per milligram, adjusted honestly

StepValueNote
Vial price, 10 mg nominal£34.00As advertised
Nominal cost per mg£3.4034 ÷ 10
Measured content9.2 mgIndependent content assay
Cost per actual mg£3.7034 ÷ 9.2
Dead-space loss, 20 draws4 %80 µL of a 2 mL fill
Cost per delivered mg£3.853.70 ÷ 0.96
First vial, with £110 assay£14.85Testing dominates a single vial

Cost per milligram is the wrong metric entirely if you are optimising for confidence rather than price, and it is worth saying which one you are doing before you build the spreadsheet.

Carriage on international consignments scales sub-linearly with weight, which is the quantitative basis for order consolidation.

A spreadsheet built on label claim rather than measured content is precise about the wrong number.

Divide by measured content, not by label claim. That is the whole correction.

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answered · acceptedfiadh_cronin58k5811 Feb 2025
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The short version: unit price, carriage, testing, dead-space loss and wastage. The first is the one everybody compares and rarely the one that decides it.

Wastage from a reconstituted vial discarded at the end of its in-use period is a genuine cost, and it is a function of the diluent volume chosen at reconstitution rather than of anything the supplier did.

Independent testing costs roughly the price of one to two vials at the services this community uses. On a two-vial order that is a fifty to a hundred per cent surcharge; on a twenty-vial order it is five per cent.

Syringe dead-space volumes are published per design, with fixed-needle insulin syringes under 5 microlitres and conventional luer designs at 35 microlitres or more.

Decide whether you are optimising cost or confidence before you build the model.

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answeredpetra_hovland35k3822 Feb 2025
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Start by listing every cost in the chain, since carriage, testing and wastage frequently exceed the difference in headline price.

Worked example. Supplier A: £60 for a 10 mg vial, content 96 per cent, so 9.6 mg for £60, or £6.25/mg before carriage. Supplier B: £52 for the same nominal vial, content 88 per cent, so 8.8 mg for £52, or £5.91/mg. B still wins here, but the gap has narrowed from thirteen per cent on the label to five per cent in reality.

In practice, carriage amortises across the order. Twenty-five pounds of carriage on one vial is £2.50/mg on a 10 mg vial; on ten vials it is £0.25/mg. That single term explains most of the case for larger, less frequent orders.

Larger orders reduce cost per milligram and increase exposure to a single lot, which is a real trade rather than a free win.

Fixed-needle syringes save more peptide than most price differences do.

edited 21 Mar 2025 by tess_amankwah — reworded for clarity after a comment

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answeredtess_amankwah22k2716 Mar 2025
7Thank you — the checklist format makes this actionable rather than merely correct. – ivo_paunovic 3 months ago
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To be exact about it, testing cost per milligram falls sharply with order size, which is the main argument against very small repeat orders.

The full calculation: (unit price + carriage share + testing share) ÷ (nominal mg × measured content fraction × (1 − dead-space and wastage fraction)). Every term after the first is routinely omitted.

Published content assay results across the independent services show nominal and measured content differing by one to ten per cent, which is the term that makes label-price comparisons unreliable.

Larger orders are cheaper per milligram and concentrate lot risk. Price both.

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answeredday_seven_trough6.7k145 Mar 2025
4Confirming that a small first order plus one independent submission is the cheapest route. – orla_ferriter 4 months ago
3Same experience here, different supplier. – v_ramaswamy 2 months ago
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Mechanically, wastage from expired reconstituted vials is a real line item and nobody includes it.

Dead-space loss is small with fixed-needle insulin syringes — a few microlitres per draw — and substantial with detachable-needle luer syringes at 35 to 100 microlitres. Across twenty draws that is up to two millilitres of solution.

The caveat is that optimising cost per milligram optimises for the wrong thing if documentation and consistency are what you actually need.

Include carriage and testing as per-milligram terms. They dominate small orders.

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answeredt_oyelaran79k488 May 2025
2The cost-per-milligram-of-measured-content correction reversed my own spreadsheet. – k_szabo 6 months ago
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