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How much protein in grams do I need at 95 kg on 900 kcal a day?

Asked 27 Feb 2025Modified 12 months agoViewed 19k times
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Stated plainly: 95 kg · 900 kcal.

I have worked this out and I would like someone to find the error, because I suspect there is one.

My working so far, for the record, is below, and I am fairly sure the error is in the unit conversion rather than the algebra.

Is my approach right even if my number is wrong?

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askedstopper_core50k13827 Feb 2025
6Thank you — the worked example is what makes this usable. – yuki_morishita 6 months ago
7Related: the same reasoning applies to the counter-ion question. – Dr_Elias_Weiss 8 months ago
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Start with the arithmetic, because the answer to the practical question is usually a number and the number is usually achievable.

The minimum effective resistance-training dose in a deficit is lower than most programmes assume. Two sessions a week covering the major movement patterns, with loads taken close to failure, is sufficient to retain most of what would otherwise be lost. Volume beyond that adds recovery cost that a large energy deficit is poorly placed to pay.

Put another way, cardio does not interfere with lean-mass retention at the volumes anyone here is doing; the interference effect in the literature appears at high concurrent volumes in trained athletes. What cardio does at a large deficit is add to the deficit, which is either the point or a problem depending on the objective.

The evidence for a higher protein intake preserving lean mass during an energy deficit is reasonably strong in resistance-trained populations and weaker in sedentary ones, with the meta-analytic estimates supporting intakes in the region of 1.6 g/kg over lower intakes when training is present[1].

The plateau is arithmetic. Treat it as arithmetic and the response follows.

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Put another way, the distinction that resolves this is between proportional loss and functional loss. Losing lean mass in proportion to total mass is what happens in every weight loss intervention. Losing function is not, and function is measurable.

Food noise returning is not obviously tolerance. Receptor desensitisation is one hypothesis; a second is that the initial effect was partly novelty and partly the steep early deficit, and a third is that intake has drifted upward and the signal is being outcompeted rather than weakened. The three make different predictions about what a dose increase would do.

In practice, hydration state moves a DEXA lean-mass figure directly, because the algorithm assigns water to the lean compartment. Scanning fasted, at the same time of day, before training and without a recent high-carbohydrate day is the difference between a comparable sequence and a noisy one. Bioelectrical impedance is far more sensitive to hydration again, which is why its trend is unusable at this timescale.

One qualification: none of this is a clinical assessment, and unexplained loss of function rather than of mass is a reason to see someone rather than to adjust a programme.

Two resistance sessions a week and a protein target you actually hit will do more than any refinement beyond them.

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answeredhalvard_ness42k384 Jun 2025
2The arithmetic checks out. I ran the same numbers and got the same result. – pieter_maas 42 days ago
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A plateau at four to six months is the expected shape of the curve, not a failure of it. Energy expenditure falls with mass, and the deficit closes itself unless intake falls further.

DEXA precision is better than people assume for fat mass and worse than people assume for lean mass in a single scan — the least significant change for regional lean mass on a well-maintained scanner is on the order of a few per cent. That means two scans three months apart can differ without anything having happened, and it means a scan sequence needs to be at least three points before a trend is interpretable.

The underlying point is that the regain trajectory after stopping is roughly a mirror of the loss trajectory, and it is not primarily a willpower phenomenon. Appetite signalling returns, energy expenditure remains suppressed relative to the original mass, and the two combine. That is an argument for a maintenance plan existing before the stop, rather than an argument against stopping.

The STEP 1 extension reported substantial regain in the year after treatment withdrawal, with weight and cardiometabolic variables trending back toward baseline[1].

Measure strength as well as mass. It is cheaper, it is less noisy, and it is closer to what you actually care about.

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answeredDr_Elias_Weiss46k3815 Jun 2025
8Have you seen anything published on this, or is it inference from the mechanism? – lipid_panel_q 7 months ago
Useful. I have added the accept threshold suggestion to my own notes. – h_pergande 9 months ago
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Mechanically, what the data supports is narrower than what gets recommended, so it is worth separating the two.

Absolute strength holds up better than scale weight during a deficit for a straightforward reason: strength is substantially neural and skill-based, and the contractile tissue you retain is being trained harder relative to its size. Grip strength and repetition maxima are therefore lagging indicators of muscle loss rather than leading ones, which is an argument for measuring both.

Train, eat the protein, measure something functional, and give the trend three months before you interpret it.

edited 20 Jul 2025 by Dr_Bram_Verhoeven — corrected a unit error in the worked example

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answeredDr_Bram_Verhoeven85k24826 Jun 2025
3Good answer, but the confidence interval in the cited trial is wider than implied. – liam_bracken 4 months ago
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On the detail: the mechanism is worth having straight, because it predicts which interventions can work and which cannot.

Fibre at very low total intake is a trap. Soluble fibre needs water and motility to work; insoluble fibre adds bulk to a slow transit. At 900 kcal a day with delayed gastric emptying, an osmotic agent is more predictable than a bulking one, and adequate fluid is doing more work than either.

I would be careful with the supplement literature here; effect sizes are small, the studies are mostly in trained young men, and generalisation to a large deficit is not obviously valid.

A maintenance plan written before you need it is worth more than a better loss plan.

edited 6 Apr 2025 by e_dziedzic — expanded the table to cover the lower concentration

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answerede_dziedzic87k2489 Mar 2025

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