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Is hair thinning on liraglutide dose-dependent or dose-rate dependent?

Asked 12 Jul 2024Modified 21 months agoViewed 24k times
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Concretely: hair thinning · liraglutide.

I want to know whether this is a real physical effect or an artefact of how it is measured.

What prompted the question is an inconsistency between two sources I otherwise trust.

Is the standard explanation correct, and if so, what is the evidence for it?

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askedanja_hellstrom13k2712 Jul 2024

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Start with the timing, because telogen effluvium has a characteristic delay of two to four months between the trigger and the shed.

Recovery follows the same timeline in reverse: shedding stops within a few months of the trigger resolving, and visible density returns over six to twelve months as regrowth reaches length.

Gastrointestinal adverse events, indicative pooled rates

EventActive armPlacebo armTiming
Nausea40–45 %15–20 %Peaks 1–2 wk after each step
Vomiting15–25 %5–8 %Follows nausea
Diarrhoea20–30 %10–15 %Early, variable
Constipation20–25 %8–12 %Later onset, persistent
Discontinuation for GI events4–7 %1–2 %Mostly during escalation

Ranges span agents and doses; read the specific prescribing information for a specific figure.

Mechanically, adequate protein matters. Hair is largely keratin, and follicles are among the most metabolically active tissues, so they are early casualties of a substantial protein shortfall.

The two-to-four-month latency follows directly from the duration of the telogen phase and is the diagnostic feature of the condition.

The trigger is the rate of loss, not the compound. Slowing it helps future follicles.

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answered · acceptedravi_pillai12k178 Aug 2024
3Thank you — knowing this was expected rather than alarming was most of what I needed. – claudia_ferrante 7 months ago
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Answering this needs the rate of weight loss and the protein intake, since those are the two modifiable contributors.

The trigger in this context is the rate of weight loss and the associated nutritional deficit, not a pharmacological property. The same phenomenon is well documented after bariatric surgery, illness and childbirth.

More usefully, nothing topical has strong evidence for accelerating recovery from telogen effluvium specifically, as distinct from androgenetic loss where the evidence is entirely different.

Recovery of density over six to twelve months is the typical reported course where the trigger has resolved.

Nothing here is medical advice.

It resolves in most cases over six to twelve months. That is genuinely the answer.

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answeredesben_lykke84k15828 Jul 2024
Confirming that slowing the titration fixed this rather than any of the other things I tried. – Dr_Nadia_Farsi 8 months ago
8This is the first explanation of the timing pattern that has actually made sense to me. – low_dead_space 6 months ago
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The part that matters: patterned rather than diffuse loss is a different condition and points elsewhere.

Slowing the rate of weight loss reduces the severity of the trigger. It does not reverse a shed already in progress, because the follicles have already committed.

It is diffuse: increased shedding across the whole scalp, often noticed in the shower or on a brush, without a receding hairline or a defined crown pattern. Patterned loss is androgenetic and unrelated.

Telogen effluvium following rapid weight loss is well documented in the dermatological literature, including extensive description after bariatric surgery.

Research-use compounds are not approved for human use.

Protein intake is the modifiable nutritional factor worth attending to.

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answeredellis_thorne17k173 Nov 2024
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The relevant biology is that a stressor pushes hair follicles synchronously from the growth phase into the resting phase, and the shed happens when they exit it.

In telogen effluvium a stressor shifts a large fraction of follicles from anagen into telogen simultaneously. Because telogen lasts around two to three months, the shed appears two to four months after the trigger rather than during it.

Low ferritin is associated with increased shedding in observational studies at thresholds above those used to define anaemia.

Check ferritin, thyroid and vitamin D once, then stop investigating.

edited 21 Jul 2024 by rhian_prydderch — tightened the wording; no substantive change

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answeredrhian_prydderch23k2717 Jul 2024
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In practice, this is one of the most distressing reported effects and one of the most reliably temporary.

Worth checking: ferritin, thyroid function and vitamin D. Low ferritin in particular is associated with shedding at levels that are not low enough to cause anaemia.

The pooled gastrointestinal adverse-event rates across the STEP programme and the SURMOUNT programme are reported in the primary publications and in the FDA and EMA assessment reports, and the assessment reports are more useful because they give the placebo-arm rates alongside the active-arm rates in the same table.

Supplementing without a measured deficiency has no evidence behind it here and is not harmless at high doses.

Diffuse and delayed means telogen effluvium. Patterned means something else.

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answeredDr_Nadia_Farsi104k24711 Sept 2024

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Ask PeptideStack is a static archive. Posting is closed, but the norms are worth stating: answer the question that was asked, show your working, cite the trial or the certificate, and say plainly where the evidence runs out.

Not medical advice. Research-use-only compounds are not approved for human use.