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How do I tell hair thinning from an energy deficit on 1,100 kcal a day?

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Setup, so nobody has to ask: hair thinning · 1,100 kcal.

I noticed this today and I have not touched anything since, in case the state is diagnostic.

I have not discarded anything yet, so a test is still possible if that is the recommendation.

Should I be treating this as a failure or as noise?

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askedtenth_of_a_unit57k3729 Dec 2024

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Start with what 1,100 kcal a day leaves you room for, because at that intake the deficit is a live competing explanation rather than a footnote. Protein is 4 kcal per gram, so 100 g costs 400 kcal — 36 per cent of the entire day's energy — and everything else has to come out of the remaining 700. A day that misses protein at 1,100 kcal has missed it by a wide margin, and hair thinning that tracks those days is a nutrition signal. Then separate the two by timing: a dose effect is periodic and phase-locked to the injection or to an increase, and a deficit effect is monotonic and gets worse the longer the intake stays at 1,100. Log intake, protein and hair thinning on the same daily row for a fortnight and the two patterns separate without any further cleverness. Nothing here is medical advice.

Start with the actual intake, because a substantially suppressed appetite produces deficits far larger than intended and fatigue is the first symptom.

Three days of honest weighed intake usually settles this. Estimated intake in this situation is systematically wrong and usually wrong in the direction that hides the problem.

Gastrointestinal adverse events, indicative pooled rates

EventActive armPlacebo armTiming
Nausea40–45 %15–20 %Peaks 1–2 wk after each step
Vomiting15–25 %5–8 %Follows nausea
Diarrhoea20–30 %10–15 %Early, variable
Constipation20–25 %8–12 %Later onset, persistent
Discontinuation for GI events4–7 %1–2 %Mostly during escalation

Ranges span agents and doses; read the specific prescribing information for a specific figure.

Iron deficiency is common, particularly in menstruating women, and low intake plus a reduced red-meat share makes it more likely. Ferritin is the test, and it is an acute-phase reactant so it needs interpreting alongside CRP.

Self-reported intake underestimates measured intake by twenty per cent or more in doubly labelled water comparisons.

Check fluid and sodium before anything more exotic.

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answered · acceptedsian_llewellyn65k14725 Jan 2025
7The red-flag list should be higher up the answer, not at the bottom. – rosa_mendieta 4 months ago
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Answering this needs to know the size of the deficit, since fatigue tracks it closely and predictably.

A deficit beyond about a thousand kilocalories a day reliably produces fatigue, reduced training performance and reduced spontaneous movement. With appetite suppressed, deficits of that size arrive by accident rather than by plan.

On the detail: carbohydrate intake specifically affects training performance and perceived energy at a given total intake, which is why very low carbohydrate approaches feel worse in the gym at matched energy.

Ferritin as an acute-phase reactant is a recognised limitation and is why it is interpreted alongside an inflammatory marker.

Nothing here is medical advice.

Abrupt onset points away from the deficit and towards something else.

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answeredrhian_prydderch23k2713 Jan 2025
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The relevant physiology is that a large deficit reduces both available substrate and spontaneous activity, and the second is often mistaken for the first.

Sleep quality often changes during rapid weight loss in both directions, and sleep debt produces fatigue that no amount of dietary adjustment will fix.

Put another way, fatigue that appeared abruptly, rather than gradually with the deficit, is a different pattern and points away from intake.

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If it persists at an adequate intake, get bloods rather than more theories.

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answeredsian_llewellyn65k1475 Feb 2025
8Any published figure for how long the constipation persists, given it does not attenuate? – bea_castellanos 8 months ago
Worth adding that the area postrema explanation also predicts why it settles. – Dr_Rosalind_Achebe 6 days ago
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Dehydration and low sodium intake produce fatigue that is indistinguishable subjectively and much easier to fix.

Hypothyroidism, sleep apnoea, depression and anaemia all present as fatigue and all become more likely rather than less in this population, so attribution to the compound should be a diagnosis of exclusion.

Sleep restriction produces measurable decrements in subjective energy and in training performance independently of energy intake.

Sleep is a variable here too, and no amount of eating fixes sleep debt.

edited 20 Feb 2025 by cal_hennessy — added the placebo-arm figures

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answeredcal_hennessy17k2716 Feb 2025
5Small correction: the discontinuation rate in the trials is lower than most people assume. – ines_brandt 4 months ago
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This is the complaint with the widest differential and the one most often attributed too quickly.

Dehydration from reduced fluid intake alongside reduced food intake produces headache, lethargy and postural dizziness, and is the cheapest thing on the list to correct.

Energy deficits above roughly a thousand kilocalories a day are associated with measurable reductions in resting metabolic rate, spontaneous activity and subjective energy in controlled studies.

Weigh three days of intake honestly. That answers this most of the time.

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answeredteodora_ilic17k2730 Mar 2025
Does the tolerance develop at the same rate for the daily agents? – rota_site 5 months ago
I have seen this misattributed to the compound twice when it was the deficit. – lyoph_cake 7 months ago
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