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How much protein in grams do I need at 88 kg on 1,400 kcal a day?

Asked 13 Apr 2026Modified 22 days agoViewed 13k times
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Concretely: 88 kg · 1,400 kcal.

Please show the division. I want to check my own against yours.

I would like the general form as well as the specific number, so I can apply it again.

Is my approach right even if my number is wrong?

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askednadia_kowalczyk14k1713 Apr 2026
3I would gently push back on the second point — the evidence there is thinner than stated. – pieter_maas 10 months ago
2Adding for future readers: the certificate should carry the lot number, not just a batch code. – Dr_Colm_Fitzhenry 8 months ago
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The distinction that resolves this is between proportional loss and functional loss. Losing lean mass in proportion to total mass is what happens in every weight loss intervention. Losing function is not, and function is measurable.

The regain trajectory after stopping is roughly a mirror of the loss trajectory, and it is not primarily a willpower phenomenon. Appetite signalling returns, energy expenditure remains suppressed relative to the original mass, and the two combine. That is an argument for a maintenance plan existing before the stop, rather than an argument against stopping.

Put another way, food noise returning is not obviously tolerance. Receptor desensitisation is one hypothesis; a second is that the initial effect was partly novelty and partly the steep early deficit, and a third is that intake has drifted upward and the signal is being outcompeted rather than weakened. The three make different predictions about what a dose increase would do.

A maintenance plan written before you need it is worth more than a better loss plan.

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answeredorla_ferriter47k3812 Jun 2026
3This should probably be in the site help pages rather than buried in an answer. – micron22 7 months ago
2Good answer, but the confidence interval in the cited trial is wider than implied. – unit_math 5 months ago
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What the data supports is narrower than what gets recommended, so it is worth separating the two.

Hydration state moves a DEXA lean-mass figure directly, because the algorithm assigns water to the lean compartment. Scanning fasted, at the same time of day, before training and without a recent high-carbohydrate day is the difference between a comparable sequence and a noisy one. Bioelectrical impedance is far more sensitive to hydration again, which is why its trend is unusable at this timescale.

To be exact about it, cardio does not interfere with lean-mass retention at the volumes anyone here is doing; the interference effect in the literature appears at high concurrent volumes in trained athletes. What cardio does at a large deficit is add to the deficit, which is either the point or a problem depending on the objective.

Adaptive thermogenesis — a fall in energy expenditure beyond that predicted by the change in body composition — is documented across weight-loss interventions and is the mechanistic basis for the plateau being expected rather than anomalous.

One qualification: none of this is a clinical assessment, and unexplained loss of function rather than of mass is a reason to see someone rather than to adjust a programme.

Train, eat the protein, measure something functional, and give the trend three months before you interpret it.

edited 27 Jun 2026 by orla_sheridan — added the placebo-arm figures

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answeredorla_sheridan14k2730 May 2026
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Start with the arithmetic, because the answer to the practical question is usually a number and the number is usually achievable.

Absolute strength holds up better than scale weight during a deficit for a straightforward reason: strength is substantially neural and skill-based, and the contractile tissue you retain is being trained harder relative to its size. Grip strength and repetition maxima are therefore lagging indicators of muscle loss rather than leading ones, which is an argument for measuring both.

Worth being precise here: the first four weeks of loss is substantially fluid and glycogen. Each gram of stored glycogen carries roughly three grams of water, and total glycogen is on the order of 400 to 500 g, so the obligatory water shift alone accounts for a couple of kilograms. This is why the first month looks dramatic and the second looks like a plateau when in fact the fat-loss rate has not changed.

Worth stating that a DEXA sequence is only as good as its protocol consistency, and most people’s sequences are not consistent enough to support the conclusions drawn from them.

The plateau is arithmetic. Treat it as arithmetic and the response follows.

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answeredt_oyelaran41k388 Jul 2026
6This matches what I was told by a laboratory, for whatever that is worth. – h_pergande 2 months ago
5Minor: the trial name is hyphenated in the original publication. – lipid_panel_q 9 days ago
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The mechanism is worth having straight, because it predicts which interventions can work and which cannot.

Fibre at very low total intake is a trap. Soluble fibre needs water and motility to work; insoluble fibre adds bulk to a slow transit. At 900 kcal a day with delayed gastric emptying, an osmotic agent is more predictable than a bulking one, and adequate fluid is doing more work than either.

The body-composition substudies in the major programmes consistently report that the proportion of weight lost as fat mass is approximately three quarters or better, with the lean-mass fraction falling within the range seen in dietary weight loss of comparable magnitude[1].

The limitation of the arithmetic is that it assumes intake is being measured accurately, and self-reported intake is systematically underestimated by a substantial margin.

Two resistance sessions a week and a protein target you actually hit will do more than any refinement beyond them.

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answeredDr_Colm_Fitzhenry85k24825 Jun 2026
7Good answer, but the confidence interval in the cited trial is wider than implied. – Dr_Aoife_Brennan 6 months ago
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The commonly quoted figures for lean-mass loss are mostly measurement artefacts, and the artefact is well understood: fat-free mass as measured includes water and glycogen, both of which fall early and neither of which is contractile tissue.

The minimum effective resistance-training dose in a deficit is lower than most programmes assume. Two sessions a week covering the major movement patterns, with loads taken close to failure, is sufficient to retain most of what would otherwise be lost. Volume beyond that adds recovery cost that a large energy deficit is poorly placed to pay.

The caveat is that population averages tell you about populations. Your own trajectory is a sample of one and should be read as a trend, not as a deviation from a published mean.

Measure strength as well as mass. It is cheaper, it is less noisy, and it is closer to what you actually care about.

edited 15 May 2026 by Dr_Ingrid_Baumgartner — added the method parameters

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answeredDr_Ingrid_Baumgartner39k3822 Apr 2026
3Does this hold at lower concentrations, or does adsorption dominate? – s_kalniete 5 months ago
2Worth flagging that this changed in 2025, so older answers on the site are out of date. – h_pergande 3 months ago
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