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Is survodutide at 3.33 mg/mL stable enough for ten weeks of multi-withdrawal use?

Asked 25 May 2024Modified 22 months agoViewed 31k times
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The case in front of me: survodutide · 3.33 mg/mL · ten weeks.

The claim is plausible, which is exactly why I want to check it.

I am able to read a paper if someone points me at one.

Is there data behind this, or is it received wisdom?

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askedh_villanueva70k4825 May 2024

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ten weeks is 70 days and, on a weekly schedule, 10 stopper punctures out of one vial at 3.33 mg/mL. Set the chemical question aside for a moment, because the puncture count is the one with a convention attached: 70 days is 2.5 times the twenty-eight days conventionally allowed for a preserved multi-dose preparation once it has been entered. Chemically, 3.33 mg/mL is high enough that adsorption to the glass is a rounding error and low enough that it is not protecting you from anything. What 10 withdrawals do add is 10 opportunities to introduce air, 10 coring events on the same stopper, and a headspace that grows with every draw — none of which show up on a certificate and all of which are avoided by splitting into aliquots at reconstitution.

Answering this needs the physical state, since a dry powder is protected from most of these and a solution is protected from none.

Freeze-thaw cycling drives aggregation through concentration at the ice interface and pH shifts as buffer components crystallise out at different rates. Each cycle costs something.

Aggregation is physical: peptides unfold at air-liquid interfaces and associate. Shaking maximises that interface, which is why swirling and shaking produce visibly different outcomes on the same vial.

Metal-catalysed oxidation of methionine is documented across peptide and protein formulations and is why chelators appear in some formulations.

Sequence determines which pathways apply, so general statements are general.

Swirl, never shake. Aggregation is a handling problem more than a time problem.

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answered · acceptedten_mg_vial31k13827 May 2024
8Worth adding that residual moisture predicts this better than any printed date. – g_paskevicius 4 months ago
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Answer first: the degradation pathways worth knowing are hydrolysis, deamidation, oxidation, aggregation and adsorption, and each has a different trigger and a different mitigation.

A mass spectrum resolves most of this: minus eighteen is dehydration or succinimide, plus one is deamidation, plus sixteen is oxidation, and an unchanged mass with a shifted retention time is an isomer.

Deamidation converts asparagine or glutamine to the corresponding acid via a succinimide intermediate, adding one dalton. It is base-catalysed, accelerates above neutral pH and is the dominant aqueous pathway for many peptides.

Apparent loss in a dilute preparation is usually adsorption rather than degradation and is worth ruling out first.

Cold, dry, dark, still. Those four words cover most of the mitigation.

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answeredbac_or_bust33k13712 Sept 2024
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Start with the sequence, because which pathways are available depends on which residues are present.

Oxidation targets methionine, cysteine and tryptophan, adding sixteen daltons per oxygen. It is catalysed by trace metals and promoted by dissolved oxygen and by light.

Hydrolysis cleaves the backbone, most readily at aspartate-proline and aspartate-glycine sequences, and is acid-catalysed. In a dry solid it barely proceeds at all.

A mass spectrum names the pathway. Plus one, plus sixteen, minus eighteen.

edited 25 Aug 2024 by Dr_Idris_Coulibaly — expanded the table to cover the lower concentration

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answeredDr_Idris_Coulibaly33k13721 Aug 2024
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The relevant point is that a mass shift of plus one dalton is deamidation and plus sixteen is oxidation, so degradation is often visible in a mass spectrum if anyone looks.

Light exposure matters for tryptophan-containing sequences and for anything with a chromophore. Amber vials and a closed box are free mitigations.

At dilute concentrations, suspect adsorption before you suspect chemistry.

edited 24 Sept 2024 by eighty_six_hours — removed a claim I could not source

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answeredeighty_six_hours20k271 Sept 2024
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In practice, this is answerable from the chemistry rather than from anecdote, which is unusual and welcome.

Adsorption onto glass and plastic is significant at low concentrations — micrograms per millilitre — and negligible at milligrams per millilitre. It is the usual explanation for an apparent loss in a dilute preparation.

Adsorption losses at low concentrations are quantified in formulation studies and are the reason carrier proteins are used in dilute preparations.

Sequence decides which pathways are even available. Check the residues.

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answeredloss_on_drying40k13829 Jun 2024

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