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How does mazdutide at 1.7 mg weekly compare on cost per milligram across routes?

Asked 25 Oct 2024Modified 17 months agoViewed 27k times
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What I have: mazdutide · 1.7 mg.

This should be a straightforward calculation and I keep getting two different answers.

The numbers are arbitrary; the method is what I am after.

What is the general form of this calculation?

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askedben_akintola10k1625 Oct 2024
2Voting to keep this open — it is more specific than it first looks. – lipid_panel_q 34 days ago
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1.7 mg a week is 88 mg a year and 7.4 mg in an average month — put every route on that denominator before comparing anything. Cost per milligram is the only figure that survives the comparison, because the presentations differ: a licensed pen prices a dose, a compounding pharmacy prices a vial, and a research supplier prices a mass. Divide each one's twelve-month cost by 88 mg and the three become the same number in the same unit. Then add what the cheapest route does not include — independent purity and content testing, the vials you discard, and the postage — because a route that needs testing to be trustworthy has that testing in its cost per milligram whether you account for it or not.

Answer first: compare cost per milligram of measured peptide, not per milligram of label claim, because content varies enough to reverse a comparison.

Change one number and it reverses: if B assays at 82 per cent, that is 8.2 mg for £52, or £6.34/mg, and the cheaper vial is now the more expensive peptide.

In practice, cost per milligram is the wrong metric entirely if you are optimising for confidence rather than price, and it is worth saying which one you are doing before you build the spreadsheet.

Published content assay results across the independent services show nominal and measured content differing by one to ten per cent, which is the term that makes label-price comparisons unreliable.

The caveat is that optimising cost per milligram optimises for the wrong thing if documentation and consistency are what you actually need.

Divide by measured content, not by label claim. That is the whole correction.

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answered · acceptedtenth_of_a_unit57k3730 Dec 2024
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The relevant arithmetic is that a fifteen per cent price advantage disappears against a ten per cent content shortfall plus a testing cost.

Wastage from a reconstituted vial discarded at the end of its in-use period is a genuine cost, and it is a function of the diluent volume chosen at reconstitution rather than of anything the supplier did.

The underlying point is that worked example. Supplier A: £60 for a 10 mg vial, content 96 per cent, so 9.6 mg for £60, or £6.25/mg before carriage. Supplier B: £52 for the same nominal vial, content 88 per cent, so 8.8 mg for £52, or £5.91/mg. B still wins here, but the gap has narrowed from thirteen per cent on the label to five per cent in reality.

Larger orders reduce cost per milligram and increase exposure to a single lot, which is a real trade rather than a free win.

Decide whether you are optimising cost or confidence before you build the model.

edited 29 Dec 2024 by dead_volume — clarified the distinction between purity and content

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answereddead_volume56k487 Dec 2024
2Adding for future readers: ask for the lot-specific certificate before ordering, not after. – e_dziedzic 9 months ago
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The short version: unit price, carriage, testing, dead-space loss and wastage. The first is the one everybody compares and rarely the one that decides it.

The full calculation: (unit price + carriage share + testing share) ÷ (nominal mg × measured content fraction × (1 − dead-space and wastage fraction)). Every term after the first is routinely omitted.

Stated carefully, carriage amortises across the order. Twenty-five pounds of carriage on one vial is £2.50/mg on a 10 mg vial; on ten vials it is £0.25/mg. That single term explains most of the case for larger, less frequent orders.

Fixed-needle syringes save more peptide than most price differences do.

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answeredfiadh_cronin58k5826 Nov 2024
8Is there a sensible order size where independent testing stops being a large surcharge? – Dr_Colm_Fitzhenry 9 months ago
7Confirming that a small first order plus one independent submission is the cheapest route. – bac_or_bust 7 months ago
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To be exact about it, this is a spreadsheet question and doing it properly changes conclusions more often than people expect.

Independent testing costs roughly the price of one to two vials at the services this community uses. On a two-vial order that is a fifty to a hundred per cent surcharge; on a twenty-vial order it is five per cent.

Syringe dead-space volumes are published per design, with fixed-needle insulin syringes under 5 microlitres and conventional luer designs at 35 microlitres or more.

Larger orders are cheaper per milligram and concentrate lot risk. Price both.

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answeredgunnar_isaksen14k1719 Dec 2024
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The honest answer is that the cheapest headline price is frequently not the cheapest outcome.

Dead-space loss is small with fixed-needle insulin syringes — a few microlitres per draw — and substantial with detachable-needle luer syringes at 35 to 100 microlitres. Across twenty draws that is up to two millilitres of solution.

A spreadsheet built on label claim rather than measured content is precise about the wrong number.

Include carriage and testing as per-milligram terms. They dominate small orders.

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answeredpetra_hovland35k3821 Feb 2025

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