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Is 1.7 mg weekly a defensible maintenance dose for survodutide?

Asked 16 Sept 2025Modified 7 months agoViewed 13k times
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The specifics, since they change the answer: 1.7 mg · survodutide.

I would like to define my thresholds before I have a result, for obvious reasons.

I want a plan with explicit stopping rules, not just steps.

What is the minimum version of this that is still defensible?

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askedjonas_ekstrom12k3816 Sept 2025
8Worth adding whether anything else glucose-lowering is on board. – Dr_Ravi_Selvarajah 5 months ago
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1.7 mg a week is 0.243 mg a day averaged out and 88 mg over a year — but "defensible" is not a property of the number, it is a property of where the number came from. A maintenance dose is defensible when a trial randomised people to it and reported what happened, and indefensible when it was arrived at by interpolation between two doses that were studied. So the question to ask of 1.7 mg is which arm it corresponds to: if a programme ran 1.7 mg as a maintenance level, there is an efficacy figure, a tolerability figure and a discontinuation rate attached to it. If it sits between two studied levels, everything said about it is extrapolation, and the burden of that is on whoever proposed it. The other half of the arithmetic is supply: at 1.7 mg a week a 10 mg vial is 5.88 weeks and you will need about 9 of them a year, which is worth knowing before the dose is settled rather than after. Maintenance doses are set by a prescriber against an individual; nothing here is medical advice.

The honest answer is that the maintenance dose is individual and that the search for it is slow because the feedback is slow.

Maintenance and loss are different endpoints. Loss requires a sustained energy deficit; maintenance requires only that the counter-regulatory drive is offset, and that may need less exposure.

If the result deteriorates on a lower dose, returning to the previous one is straightforward and does not require re-titration from the bottom provided the gap has been short.

Inference from the withdrawal trials to dose reduction is inference and should be labelled as such.

Search downward, one step, eight weeks each, on a rolling average.

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answeredv_ramaswamy68k5722 Sept 2025
8Adding for future readers: write down what "working" means before you start. – Dr_Rosalind_Achebe 9 months ago
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Answering this needs the reason for the current dose, since a dose chosen for loss and a dose chosen for maintenance are different decisions.

A downward search proceeds one step at a time with at least eight weeks at each level, because a weekly agent takes four to five weeks to reach the new steady state and then needs time for the trend to be readable.

Weight is a noisy signal. A rolling four-week average is the instrument; single weigh-ins after a dose reduction will show nothing interpretable.

Nothing here is medical advice, and research-use compounds are not approved for human use.

Glycaemic maintenance gives a faster signal than weight maintenance.

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answeredines_brandt113k2578 Jan 2026
2This should be linked from the help pages. – mz_4113 2 months ago
3Two of us compared schedules and the difference was entirely in patience. – tri_gly_ala 4 months ago
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Any reduction takes four to five weeks to express itself, so the search proceeds in months.

Gastrointestinal tolerability generally improves on a reduced dose, which is a genuine quality-of-life argument for the search rather than only a cost one.

To be exact about it, the withdrawal trials — STEP-4 and SURMOUNT-4 — established what happens when treatment stops entirely. They did not evaluate dose reduction, so the evidence for a lower maintenance dose is inference rather than data.

The counter-regulatory hormonal response to weight loss persists for at least a year after the loss, which is the physiological reason maintenance needs something rather than nothing.

The caveat is that dose reduction is a clinical decision and this is a description of a search strategy rather than a recommendation.

Going back up after a short gap does not require re-titrating from the bottom.

edited 8 Jan 2026 by aine_mulcahy — tightened the wording; no substantive change

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answeredaine_mulcahy28k2728 Dec 2025
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The relevant observation is that maintenance frequently requires less exposure than the loss phase did, and the trials suggest it rather than establish it.

Glycaemic maintenance has a faster and cleaner signal than weight maintenance, particularly with continuous monitoring, which makes the downward search more tractable when glycaemia is the endpoint.

Gastrointestinal adverse event rates in the trials are dose-related, which supports the tolerability argument for the lowest effective dose.

A noisy weight signal makes premature conclusions easy, in both directions.

The withdrawal trials answer stopping, not reducing. Different questions.

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answeredDr_Bram_Verhoeven84k24817 Dec 2025
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It helps to be literal here: this is a question the trial programmes answered only partially, and it is worth saying which parts are evidenced.

The maintenance dose is not necessarily the same a year later, since the counter-regulatory response attenuates slowly if at all.

STEP-4 and SURMOUNT-4 evaluated withdrawal rather than dose reduction, which is the limit of the direct evidence on this question.

The caveat that matters: dose decisions on a licensed medicine belong with a prescriber, and dose decisions on research-use-only material belong to a category where nobody has any obligation to you at all.

The lowest dose that holds the result is the answer, and it is individual.

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answeredv_ramaswamy68k575 Nov 2025
8I would add a line about not escalating during an illness. Learned that one the hard way. – Dr_Colm_Fitzhenry 3 months ago
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