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What interval makes sense for repeating triglycerides on survodutide?

Asked 28 May 2024Modified 23 months agoViewed 45k times
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Details up front: triglycerides · survodutide.

I am at the decision point and I would rather think it through than improvise.

I would rather spend money on measurement than on redundancy.

What is the minimum version of this that is still defensible?

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askedlukas_sedlacek16k1828 May 2024

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Answer first: decide what you would do differently for each possible result before you order the panel. Anything that fails that test is a number you will worry about and not act on.

A twenty-analyte panel run on a healthy person will produce, on average, one out-of-range result purely from how reference intervals are constructed. That is arithmetic rather than pathology.

The part that matters: a sensible core for this population is a full blood count, renal function with electrolytes, liver enzymes with bilirubin, a fasting lipid panel with apolipoprotein B, HbA1c and thyroid-stimulating hormone.

Reference intervals are conventionally the central ninety-five per cent of a reference population, which is the direct cause of the one-in-twenty out-of-range rate on a healthy panel.

The caveat is that a panel is not a diagnosis and interpreting one is a clinician's job, particularly when several values move together.

Keep the full report, not the number. You will need the units and the interval later.

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answered · acceptedDr_Bram_Verhoeven84k24827 Jul 2024
7Does this hold for a non-fasting draw, or does the triglyceride figure make that a different conversation? – plate_count_9k 6 months ago
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This is answerable, and the answer is mostly about which tests rather than how many.

Same laboratory, same method, same time of day, same fasting state. Between-laboratory differences on several common analytes are larger than the changes people are trying to detect.

Keep the reports rather than the numbers. Units, reference intervals and methods all vary, and a bare number two years later is not comparable to anything.

Pre-analytical factors — posture, tourniquet time, fasting, sample handling — are the largest source of error in routine biochemistry, well ahead of the analysis itself.

Ordering tests you will not act on generates anxiety and incidental findings, both of which have costs.

One out-of-range value on a twenty-analyte panel is expected. Two on a repeat is a finding.

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answeredDr_Malik_Osei19k2718 Aug 2024
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Before reacting to any single value, check whether it is outside the interval by an amount larger than the assay's own variation.

Delta checks — comparing against your own previous value — are far more sensitive than comparing against a population interval, which is the argument for keeping a series rather than a snapshot.

The relevant detail is that haemolysis in the sample raises potassium and several enzymes spuriously. If a result is bizarre, ask whether the sample was flagged before building a theory on it.

Nothing here is medical advice. If something is out of range and you do not know why, that is a consultation rather than a research project.

Same laboratory, same time, same fasting state, or the comparison is not a comparison.

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answeredh_villanueva70k487 Aug 2024
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The honest position is that most people order too many analytes and too few time points, when the reverse would be more informative.

Repeat before you react. A single abnormal value has a substantial probability of being within the combined biological and analytical variation of a normal one.

External quality assurance schemes document between-laboratory differences on common analytes that routinely exceed the size of clinically interesting changes.

Decide the action for each result before you order the test.

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answeredlipid_panel_q36k1275 Jul 2024
3Any view on cystatin C where muscle mass is falling? Creatinine seems to mislead in exactly that case. – klara_novotna 8 months ago
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Answering this needs to distinguish screening from monitoring. A screening panel looks for the unexpected; a monitoring panel tracks something you already have a reason to watch.

Timing matters per analyte: cortisol and testosterone are diurnal, triglycerides are postprandial, and creatinine responds to hydration and to recent training. Fixing the conditions removes most of the noise.

Biological variation data are published per analyte and are the basis for the reference change value — the difference between two results that is larger than noise.

Baseline first, then a repeat under identical conditions. Everything else is secondary.

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answeredtandem_gradient61k24816 Jul 2024
3Same laboratory every time is advice I ignored for a year, and the series was useless because of it. – laminar_bench 7 months ago
4Is the assay method stated on your report? Two immunoassays for the same analyte do not agree with each other. – net_peptide 8 months ago
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