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What fraction of loss on cagrilintide is lean mass according to REDEFINE-1?

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For reference: cagrilintide · REDEFINE-1.

I want to understand what this actually establishes, as opposed to what it is being used to imply.

My concern is that I am being invited to draw a conclusion the data does not support.

What does this actually establish, and what does it not?

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askedlukas_sedlacek16k1829 Dec 2025

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Take the REDEFINE-1 body-composition substudy, not the main paper, and note how few participants were in it. Composition substudies are typically a small imaged subset of the full randomisation, so the lean-mass fraction carries a confidence interval far wider than the weight figures beside it. Then check the method: DEXA reports lean soft tissue, which includes water, and a large early fluid shift is counted as lean loss whether or not any protein left. The fraction most of these programmes land near is around a quarter of total loss, which is also roughly what caloric restriction alone produces — the interesting question is not the fraction but whether it differs from the deficit-matched control.

Answer first: lean mass falls during any substantial weight loss, typically as twenty to thirty per cent of the total, and the levers that change that fraction are protein intake and resistance training rather than anything pharmacological.

The conventional figure is that lean tissue accounts for roughly a quarter of total weight lost in unstructured weight loss, falling towards ten to fifteen per cent with adequate protein and progressive resistance training, and rising above a third with very rapid loss and no training stimulus.

Scan-to-scan precision on lean mass is around one to two per cent for a good DXA under standardised conditions, so a change of half a kilogram is inside the noise.

Glycogen's water-binding ratio of roughly three to one is basic physiology and explains most early rapid weight change in any deficit.

Protein and progressive resistance training. Those are the two levers; everything else is a detail.

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The short version: some lean loss is obligatory, the proportion is modifiable, and most of the early loss is water rather than tissue.

A deficit of five hundred to seven hundred and fifty kilocalories per day is the range within which lean preservation is generally achievable. Larger deficits work faster and cost more lean tissue per kilogram lost.

Resistance training two to four times weekly with progressive load is the intervention with the strongest evidence for reducing the lean fraction of loss. Cardiovascular exercise does not substitute for it on this endpoint.

The caveat is that lean mass on a scan is not muscle, and treating the two as identical over-reads the instrument.

Same machine, same time of day, same hydration state, or the series is noise.

edited 27 Mar 2026 by Dr_Wren_Halliday — added a caveat about sampling

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answeredDr_Wren_Halliday19k3725 Feb 2026
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It helps to be literal here: this is measurable rather than arguable, provided you use the same instrument under the same conditions each time.

A daily protein intake in the range of 1.6 to 2.4 grams per kilogram of reference body weight is the range the resistance-training literature supports for lean-mass preservation in a deficit. At the top of that range the marginal return is small.

In practice, glycogen depletion in the first fortnight releases the water bound to it — roughly three grams of water per gram of glycogen — which shows up as several kilograms of "lean mass" lost before any tissue has gone anywhere.

Trials in this class that measured body composition report lean fractions broadly consistent with other weight-loss interventions of similar magnitude.

Track absolute lean mass, not lean percentage, or the arithmetic will mislead you.

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answeredswab_stopper8.8k1314 Feb 2026
4Two of us ran the numbers on this and got the same lean fraction, for what that is worth. – low_dead_space 4 months ago
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The relevant confounder is glycogen: each gram of stored glycogen carries about three grams of water, and both register as lean mass.

Because appetite is suppressed in this class, protein intake tends to fall in absolute terms even when it rises as a percentage of a smaller intake. That is the specific mechanism by which lean loss gets worse here.

The twenty-five per cent figure for lean loss in unstructured weight reduction is a long-standing result from body-composition studies across many interventions, including surgery.

Comparing scans from different machines is not a comparison. Different manufacturers use different algorithms.

Do not read the first fortnight as tissue loss. It is mostly glycogen and its water.

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answeredDr_Ingrid_Baumgartner73k583 Feb 2026
8Does the protein target use total weight or reference weight? It changes it substantially. – marta_okonkwo 44 days ago
Adding a vote because this deserves more of them. – tenth_of_a_unit 3 months ago
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Absolute lean mass and lean mass as a percentage move in opposite directions during fat loss, which causes endless confusion.

Bone mineral density is measured on the same scan and falls slowly with weight loss; it is worth tracking on the same series rather than as a separate exercise.

Protein intakes in the 1.6 to 2.2 g/kg range are supported by meta-analyses of resistance-training studies for lean-mass retention in energy deficit.

Nothing here is medical or dietetic advice, and anyone with kidney disease has a protein question that needs a clinician.

A quarter is typical. Below a fifth is a good outcome. Above a third means slow down.

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answeredDr_Yusuf_Adeyemi54k14722 Apr 2026

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