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Is loss on drying interchangeable with Karl Fischer?

Asked 18 Jul 2025Modified 8 months agoViewed 11k times
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I have both a purity figure and a content figure, which is why the discrepancy is visible.

I am trying to choose between two options that are usually discussed as though only one exists.

I am not optimising for price, but I am not indifferent to it either.

Which axes does this decision turn on?

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askedtandem_gradient85k24818 Jul 2025

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Concretely, before anything else, check that the lot number on the certificate matches the vial in your hand — that traces back to your material and not to some other lot from some other date.

The test date matters because a certificate six months older than the vial is not evidence about your material, it is evidence about what the material was like half a year ago.

Mass shifts and what they usually mean

Δ mass (Da)Most likely causeDistinguishing feature
+1Deamidation (Asn or Gln)New peak, slightly earlier retention
−17Loss of ammoniaOften with deamidation
−18Dehydration / succinimidepH-dependent, reversible
+16Oxidation (Met, Trp)Earlier retention, light-related
−128Missing Gln or LysDeletion sequence from synthesis
0Isomer: racemisation or scramblingSame mass, shifted retention

Stated carefully, writing the lot number on your vial in permanent marker is worth doing because it later proves that the certificate traces to your material.

The caveat is that a certificate is not a guarantee, it is a data point, and treating it as anything else is asking for disappointment.

The practical summary: check the lot number, ask for the method, and reserve judgement until you have both.

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answeredDr_Yusuf_Adeyemi95k24828 Jul 2025
5Worth flagging that this changed in 2025, so older answers on the site are out of date. – nine_point_nine 8 months ago
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The part that matters: most certificates are written to look impressive rather than to be informative, and it is worth being sceptical of that gap.

Lot number visibility is the first check, and it is the one most certificates fail — the number is not printed on the vial, or it is on the certificate but the vial is unmarked.

A method section that differs markedly from pharmacopoeial standards is either innovative or nonstandard, and distinguishing the two requires expertise.

Be careful not to over-read this — a certificate that is imperfect is not worthless, it is just a starting point for thought rather than an endpoint.

My working rule is that a document without a lot number, a method section and a test date is marketing.

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answeredDr_Aoife_Brennan50k4814 Nov 2025
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A certificate without a method section is giving you a claim rather than a measurement, and claims are not evidence.

A purity figure to two decimal places with no supporting chromatogram is giving false precision and is a red flag on the same level as spelling errors.

The field you have least reason to trust is the one that looks most impressive, because appearance and accuracy are not correlated.

Research-grade certificates carry no regulatory backing and no standing in quality systems, and that limitation is worth being explicit about.

If the certificate does not trace to your vial, it is not evidence about your vial.

edited 3 Nov 2025 by stopper_core — clarified the distinction between purity and content

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answeredstopper_core50k1382 Nov 2025
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Start from what the certificate claims to measure and what the claimed measurement actually answers, because those are two different questions.

Batch versus lot is a semantic distinction that determines whether one certificate applies to ten vials or to one, and checking this distinction is worth a minute.

One qualification: a single result from a single vial at a single time is a point estimate with no error bar, and no amount of decimal places changes that.

The practical summary: check the lot number, ask for the method, and reserve judgement until you have both.

edited 3 Nov 2025 by loss_on_drying — added the citation requested in comments

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answeredloss_on_drying47k13822 Oct 2025
Small correction: the units in the third paragraph should be micrograms, not milligrams. – tabular_nums 6 months ago
Do you have a reference for the last claim? Not disputing it, just want to read it. – vialroom 8 months ago
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What a useful certificate carries is debatable, but there are certain fields that almost no research-grade certificate includes despite their being standard in pharmaceutical work.

Comparison across certificates from different laboratories is almost never valid, even when the material is the same, because the methods are almost never the same.

Industry guidance on this topic is consistent because it comes from first principles rather than convention.

My working rule is that a document without a lot number, a method section and a test date is marketing.

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answeredw_okoye40k13811 Oct 2025
The arithmetic checks out. I ran the same numbers and got the same result. – eoin_mcgarry 6 months ago
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