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How do I set an accept/reject threshold before I see the result?

Asked 13 May 2025Modified 12 months agoViewed 7k times
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This is my second independent submission on material from the same supplier.

This is a planning question. I know what my options are; I do not know how to weigh them.

What I want is the minimum viable version, which I suspect is smaller than what I would design.

How do I make this decision on evidence rather than on feel?

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If a lot has visibly segregated — some vials showing different appearance — then sampling the top and bottom of the shipment is worth doing.

Acceptance Sampling by Attributes defines the number of samples you need from a lot to claim a specified quality level at a specified risk — it is in ANSI standard Z1.4.

The statistical foundation here is well-established, which is why sampling plans from decades ago are still valid.

Lyophilised peptide homogeneity studies show that vial-to-vial variation is usually small but occasionally large, depending on the distribution in the freeze-dryer.

Assume segregation is possible, and design your sampling to catch it if it exists.

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The relevant detail is that the practical consequence is that spot-testing one vial from a new supplier is better than assuming they are all the same.

A statement that "lot 20260412 complies with specifications" is meaningless without stating which vials from the lot were tested and how many there were.

Testing a vial that has been open in the lab for three months is testing aged material, not the fresh lot, and the result should be explicitly noted as a retest.

If testing multiple vials, state how many you tested and why you chose those vials.

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answeredines_brandt93k2482 Jul 2025
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Put another way, start from the question: how many vials from this lot do I need to test to claim that the lot meets specification, and the answer depends on both the lot size and the acceptable risk.

For a quantitative result like content, the acceptable range determines how many vials you need to test to establish the lot complies.

More usefully, published segregation failures show that even modern automated processes sometimes produce lots with measurable vial-to-vial variation.

The practical summary: a lot number without a sampling statement is a lot number without meaning.

edited 10 Aug 2025 by g_paskevicius — reworded for clarity after a comment

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answeredg_paskevicius44k384 Aug 2025
4The placebo-arm figure is the part everyone omits. – vial_five 3 months ago
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On the detail: most suppliers test one vial per lot and report the result as lot homogeneity, which is sampling one item from one lot and extrapolating wildly.

If you have reason to suspect inhomogeneity — different appearance in different vials, or a long or warm shipment — testing more vials is the diagnostic move.

Published data on lot homogeneity from manufacturers who sample multiple vials consistently find variation below the published specifications, suggesting the sampling plans work.

Assume segregation is possible, and design your sampling to catch it if it exists.

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answeredcake_collapsed13k2824 Jul 2025
For what it is worth, my own result was within half a per cent of this. – tess_amankwah 9 months ago
2Any reason this would differ for a longer peptide? – h_pergande 19 days ago
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