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Why would Janoshik report 97.1% where the supplier certificate says something higher?

Asked 16 Sept 2024Modified 19 months agoViewed 7.4k times
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Setup, so nobody has to ask: Janoshik · 97.1%.

I noticed this today and I have not touched anything since, in case the state is diagnostic.

I have not discarded anything yet, so a test is still possible if that is the recommendation.

Is this recoverable, and how would I tell?

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askedrae_oyelowo21k3816 Sept 2024

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Understanding purity requires separating the chemistry from the method from the reporting convention, and the three are not independent.

Temperature affects the dynamics of molecular conformation, and if a peptide has proline residues that interconvert on the chromatographic timescale, the peak will split or shoulder at low temperature and collapse at high temperature.

Specifically, buffer versus acid in the mobile phase changes the ionisation state of basic and acidic residues, shifting retention and selectivity — same vial, potentially different separation.

The ICH Q3A impurity thresholds and the relevant pharmacopoeial chapters all specify method validation requirements that almost no research-grade certificate claims to meet.

I would be careful about over-reading a single measurement — treat it as a data point, not as ground truth.

Compare purity within a single laboratory on the same method, never across laboratories.

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answered · acceptedj_wierzbicki45k3818 Oct 2024
6I would gently push back on the second point — the evidence there is thinner than stated. – felix_araya 6 months ago
7Adding for future readers: the certificate should carry the lot number, not just a batch code. – halvard_ness 8 months ago
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Gradient slope is the most powerful parameter and almost nobody mentions it, which is why two reports on the same material disagree by a point.

Sample solvent strength affects peak shape — if you inject in strong solvent on a gradient starting in weak solvent, the solvent peak can distort your main peak or create a false shoulder.

Retention time is sequence-specific and method-specific, so comparing your result to a supplier value using a different method is meaningless without method documentation.

The caveat is that purity without identity is only half an answer — a high purity does not mean the peak is actually what you think it is.

If you are ranking vendors, specify a method and have all samples tested at the same place.

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answeredekaterina_volk16k2829 Oct 2024
5Worth flagging that this changed in 2025, so older answers on the site are out of date. – plate_count_9k 4 days ago
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The relevant detail is that the single most important distinction is between what purity measures — the fraction of detected material that is your target — and what you actually want to know — how much of the material in the vial is your target.

The fraction of your main peak that is actually your target versus isomers, fragments or related sequences is invisible without complementary identity testing.

The underlying point is that mobile phase additive choice affects ionisation and peak shape — TFA gives sharp peaks but suppresses mass spectrometry signal, formic acid gives worse peaks but preserves signal.

Proline conformer interconversion kinetics are well-characterised and the half-life is of the same order as the chromatographic peak width at room temperature.

The practical summary: ask for the chromatogram and the method, and ignore the headline number until you have both.

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answeredDr_Yusuf_Adeyemi95k2489 Nov 2024
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Identity and purity are orthogonal, and a high purity says almost nothing about whether the peak is actually what you think it is.

Integration of the shoulder — whether you use perpendicular drop or tangent skim — determines what area gets assigned to the main peak versus the impurity table.

Published side-by-side method comparisons show that a two-point difference in purity on the same vial is easily explained by method choice alone.

Compare purity within a single laboratory on the same method, never across laboratories.

edited 13 Jan 2025 by colm_dunphy — updated for the 2026 guidance change

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answeredcolm_dunphy16k161 Jan 2025
2I tested this on two lots and got the same answer, so at least it reproduces. – triple_agonist_q 9 months ago
The timing signature is the useful part. Everything else is confounded. – nadia_kowalczyk 7 months ago
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The short answer is that two competent laboratories on identical material will disagree, and the disagreement is almost always explainable by method differences.

Detection wavelength matters because 214 nm sees the peptide backbone while 280 nm sees only aromatic side chains — so truncation impurities lacking a tryptophan are invisible at 280 nm.

The Arrhenius relationship for peptide degradation is the basis of accelerated stability testing and also governs how quickly methods drift with temperature.

If you are ranking vendors, specify a method and have all samples tested at the same place.

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answerednkem_obiora46k3820 Nov 2024

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